It's been a while that I had used a Wax on any of my vehicles. The last I remember was Formula1 which I used on my dad's Honda City when I was in college.
It used to be an out-of-world experience but as time passed and sealants, coatings took over the market promising gloss and protection these waxes were a thing of the past, or at least I thought so.
The major letdown was that waxes never offered longevity as others did considering the efforts you put, so why bother.
Lately, I have seen the revival of waxes from multiple brands(Unfortunately most of them are not available in India) with some offering equivalent protection than sealants while giving you that lovely experience of waxing your ride.
I have been planning to try the Turtle wax brand for a long time but never got the opportunity as I already had stock from other brands.
I follow the detailer cum YouTuber "Pan - The Organizer" closely and saw his video about the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic+Graphene Paste Wax from Turtle wax which was launched on their 75th anniversary.
A day later I get an email from Autofresh that they have stocked it and are offering a discount on orders.
I couldn't miss the opportunity to get my hands on one of them and relive the waxing nostalgia again.
Why Hybrid Solutions Ceramic+Graphene Paste Wax?
-Wanted to enjoy the waxing experience again
-I believe spray waxes/sealants suffer from an uneven application whereas waxes since done by hand ensures uniform coverage.
-Lack of other waxes which offer everything in one package. Even if there is the brand is not available in India (Eg. Adams, Fusco)
-Wanted to try the Turtle Wax products and see for myself what's the hype about.
-Waxes with ceramic and graphene are not available in the Indian market based on my research so this was the only option.
PLEASE NOTE I am nowhere associated with the brand and all the views are of my own.
Members are free to disagree/correct me.
Price
2400Inr for a 156gms Tub.
Bought it from Autofresh. in for 2160 after applying the coupon code.
Look/Touch/Smell
A pleasant smell which is a mix of butter and tropical fruit(Which fruit I am not sure about)
Availability
Amazon.in
Autofresh.in
How is it Different
-10 Waxes+Ceramic+Graphene all infused in 1 product.
-Supposedly offers gloss and protection equivalent to sealants
-Wax application doesn't require too much know-how so an average joe can confidently use the product without worrying about the procedure.
Test subject
-Hyundai Creta 2019(White)
-Vehicle has been coated with Max Protect UK around 2 years back.
-Last topcoat refresh was 3 months ago using Carpro HydrO2 spray sealant.
-The topcoat is performing Ok in my opinion.
Process Followed
1. Pre-soaked the car with Bilt Hamber Surfex HD(10% Dilution) and after 2 minutes rinsed with water to degrade any waxes, sealants, grime.
2.The Vehicle was sprayed with Iron X for Chemical decontamination and after dwelling for 3-5 minutes used a MF towel and rinsed the vehicle gently to evenly spread the product. Rinsed with water to remove any excess product.
3.Sprayed the vehicle with Carpro Spotless to get rid of water spots and after 2 minutes used a MF towel and rinsed the vehicle gently to evenly spread the product. Rinsed with water to remove any excess product.
4.Washed the vehicle with pH-neutral shampoo and dried the vehicle.
5.Applied the wax one panel at a time till it hazes and then buffed off with towels.
How easy is the application?
-It's a Buff on Buff Off product, and just like any other wax the initial removal offers some resistance but the buffing is smooth as butter. Overall not tiresome by waxing standards.
-With Lighter color vehicles it's a challenge to know if the spread is even and if the whole panel is covered or not. In few instances, I had to use the Mobile led light to ensure the coverage. Dark colors shouldn't face this problem
-It took me 1.5 hours for waxing the whole car including the glass area.
How economical
-Definitely not on the economical side as you can get a spray sealant at roughly half the price which is easier to apply
-You pay for the experience along with the same level of gloss and protection(Yet to gauge) so it demands a premium
-Comparatively easy on pocket especially when you have products in the market like IGL Coatings "ECOshine Nano wax" which costs double than this one.
Protection and how I intend to test it
-Yet to ascertain as it's a new product in the market and due to lockdown cannot take the vehicle out in the elements to see how it behaves.
- Manufacturer claims 12 months but even if I get 5-6 months I will be a happy man.
-I will soon be relocating to a different apartment where I won't have the luxury to do a full wash hence will be using ONLY waterless wash(Proklear+Ech02) to clean the vehicle when mildly soiled and a full wash from any car wash with my own foam wash(Planning to buy Turtle Wax Ice Snow Foam + Sonax BSD as a topper IF need be)when it's full of dirt and grime. Will see how long a single coat can survive with regular maintenance.
Gloss & Beading
-The gloss and beading certainly got a considerable bump post-application.
Overall Impressions and general Observations
-Purpose of using this product was purely to relive the waxing experience while protecting the paint.
-If the longevity is even half of what is claimed I would still consider it a good deal.
It was almost 5 Pm by the time I finished so could not click pics in ample light but that will be done as soon as the lockdown is lifted so hang tight.
The Pics might not be the best but still gives a fair idea. Lockdown is to blame
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| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | *****UPDATE****** To spice things up I will be doing some experimentation. The purpose would be to test if the wax as a standalone product lasts longer OR with a topper above it OR with an additional layer of Turtle Wax. By now the 1st layer has cured and since the vehicle has not been taken out the paint is still clean from any dirt/ grime. Door 1(Driver side ie Front Right)->No Topping Door2(Rear Right)->Top it with BSD Door3(Passenger side ie Front Left)->Additional layer of Wax(Turtle Wax) Door4(Rear Left)->No Topping Now I will test it in real-world conditions and see which combination or standalone product lasts longer. |
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| 500ContyCruiser BHPian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: KA25 Posts: 610 Thanked: 770 Times View My Garage | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Couldn't resist trying new wax this weekend. Spent all day cleaning and waxing my truck. Stuck in apartment due to lockdown, so do not have access to hose or power point. Had to do basic bucket wash and all manual labor. It was a good workout! Note: The vehicle has never been polished. Since it gets driven in all kinds of terrains, never bothered to do paint correction. It has lots of swirls, scratches from farm & forest driving and "paint friendly" bird droppings. You might notice paint defects in pics. Followed below steps: 1. First round of wash and rinse. 2. Claying with ONR as lub. 3. Second round of wash and rinse. 4. Applied TurtleWax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Graphene Paste Wax. After Wash and Claying:     Forgot to take pics while applying wax, got only two.   After applying TurtleWax:         Water sheeting after one coat of wax:
Verdict: 1. I did not notice major difference in before and after. 2. Surface wasnt smooth (feather like finish) as Collinite. Not sure of the longevity. Thinking of applying second coat tomorrow. Not sure if it would make any difference. Last edited by 500ContyCruiser : 8th May 2021 at 21:21. | |||
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| 8th May 2021, 22:15 | #18 | |
| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
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| 500ContyCruiser BHPian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: KA25 Posts: 610 Thanked: 770 Times View My Garage | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
Yes, maybe because of paint defects, the wax not behaving as expected. Collaged few of water sheeting affects after about 24 hours of waxing.
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| 10th May 2021, 01:41 | #20 | |
| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
Also in case you plan to double coat the wax do share your experience how was it.I am going to seal the wax today with Carpro Hydro O2 on 1 side and Sonax BSD on other to see how the longevity is improved.The front however will be left as is to gauge the longevity of the wax alone.1 test 3 results all we need to do is now wait.As monsoons arrive it will surely test them all. | |
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| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again ***********Update******* So finally today I completed the in-depth cleaning of the vehicle and performed the following tasks:- 1. Applied Carpro Hydr02 spray sealant to the driver side doors and half dicky on that side. (This is atop of the Turtle Wax single coat) 2.Applied Sonax BSD spray sealant to the passenger side doors and half dicky on that side.(This is atop of the Turtle Wax single coat) 3. The Bonet and the fenders on both sides has Turtle Wax single coat. 4. Mats were cleaned and the car was vacuumed 5. Engine was cleaned using Bilt Hamber APC in a manual foamer 6. Interior was cleaned using Sonax Matt Effect spray The car is all set to face the monsoon now
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| 10th May 2021, 21:42 | #22 | |
| 500ContyCruiser BHPian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: KA25 Posts: 610 Thanked: 770 Times View My Garage | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
Yes, monsoon would be perfect time to test! | |
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| 24th May 2021, 14:04 | #23 |
| 500ContyCruiser BHPian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: KA25 Posts: 610 Thanked: 770 Times View My Garage | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Yesterday I did taste driving in rain. Though it wasnt heavy rain, still was good enough. Sorry for the bad quality of photos as they are taken in parking lot.   All day time was spent claying and waxing my BIL's CLA.      |
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| 24th May 2021, 19:03 | #24 | |
| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
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| 24th May 2021, 19:59 | #25 | |
| 500ContyCruiser BHPian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: KA25 Posts: 610 Thanked: 770 Times View My Garage | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
Even with outmost care, will be happy if the wax lasts 6-8 months. Then it would be worth all the physical effort put in. | |
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| 8th June 2021, 23:19 | #26 |
| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Finally got vaccinated today with the first dose and took that opportunity to take a few pictures of the vehicle.It was little cloudy so not sure how accurate they will show the gloss but it s it what it is. Attached Thumbnails          |
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| 11th June 2021, 00:12 | #27 | |
| RijuC BHPian Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 637 Thanked: 2,037 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
By the way, I am not really going to use the collinite- it is out of budget right now. But I need to know sequence for rest of the products. I am a newbie in this. | |
| 11th June 2021, 01:22 | #28 | |
| jothishX BHPian Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: KL 01 Posts: 64 Thanked: 343 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
I generally prefer sealant to be applied first, then top it off with a wax if needed. Most people online would suggest the same way, but I've seen recommendations of topping of costly waxed or ceramic coated cars with BSD, like once in a month or so. Sonax BSD in itself is enough to give some serious shine to any vehicle. But, the surface may not be as smooth to touch or as glossy, when compared to a freshly washed car. But, try throwing water on a BSD coated surface and see the water just fly off like crazy. TurtleWax Seal n Shine does the same job, but I found the beading to be better with the BSD. Gloss is slightly better with Turtlewax. BSD is easier to apply and can be applied on a wet surface, right after washing, as a drying aid. Turtlewax can be applied on a dry surface only. Also, BSD can be diluted to 1:3 ratio with water and still retain almost the same effectiveness. If you are a newbie to car detailing. Just grab the BSD and use it for a couple of months. A single coating should help you through this monsoon. Or can be topped once in a month or two. Wax does one additional job of hiding swirl marks and minor scratches, which both others will not be able to match. Last edited by jothishX : 11th June 2021 at 01:27. | |
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| somspaple BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 346 Thanked: 931 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
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| 11th June 2021, 08:14 | #30 |
| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Sonax BSD I believe offers more protection than slickness, especially when compared to any Turtle Wax Products. But In terms of durability, I think BSD is better than TW products. What goes in favour of BSD is the balance between the price and protection it offers against other products. It would be interesting to test BSD vs TW Seal and shine in Indian conditions and put this argument to rest. Any Takers? My current vehicle is a testbed to 3 combinations currently. ->2 Layers of TW Ceramic+Graphene Paste Wax(Bonnet and Fenders) ->1 layer TW Ceramic+Graphene Paste Wax TOPPED with Sonax BSD(1:2) (Right Side +Half Dicky) ->1 layer TW Ceramic+Graphene Paste Wax TOPPED with Carpro Hydr02 (Left Side +Half Dicky) Odo Reading 12605 when the vehicle was first taken out after the above detailing. Let's see which combination stays the most. Last edited by Artyom : 11th June 2021 at 08:39. |
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| jothishX BHPian Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: KL 01 Posts: 64 Thanked: 343 Times | [quote=somspaple;5079458]Not necessarily - Seal n Shine can be sprayed on wet surface and rinsed off with fresh water/quote] I see, I was following the instructions where it said to dry the car. My bottle is only 25% used. Guess I love the BSD more :P. Also, that is some serious shine. Quote:
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| 11th June 2021, 10:47 | #32 |
| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again [/quote] I'm waiting for your results. The monsoon is going to be an ideal test, unless there is more lockdown[/quote] I was wondering if someone on the forum would have done that can share their observations. For me, I am already loaded with the existing stock of products that the BSD VS TW S&S testing might not happen in near future. That's why I asked any takers |
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| 11th June 2021, 11:38 | #33 |
| jothishX BHPian Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: KL 01 Posts: 64 Thanked: 343 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again I've a whole bunch of waxes, sealants, sprays and what not that I impulse bought when I had that crazy detailing fever after watching a lot of videos on youtube. Now that I'm back to normal, I experiment less . I know I've applied BSD on one panel and TW SnS on other, but forgot which one was applied where.. |
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| 11th June 2021, 14:19 | #34 | |
| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
I agree with detailing most of the purchases are impulsive in nature. By the time one gets to senses and realises that the current stock is not going to end anytime soon it's too late. Finally, you end up staring at them and wonder how come you collected so much stuff without a thought.I call it "Detailing kick Syndrome" And most of us are guilty of that. | |
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| Artyom BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 608 Thanked: 1,623 Times | Re: Turtle Wax (Ceramic + Graphene) Paste Wax | Reliving the waxing nostalgia again Quote:
************************************************** **** Today i washed the vehicle and realised it's been exactly 3 months since the wax was applied so thought of updating the thread. 1 The Wax is still holding off on the fenders but the degradation is noticeable 2.The Biggest hit I observed is on the Bonnet where it has worn off the most. 3. Sonax BSD is also starting to show signs of degradation 4.Carpro Hydr02 is holding better than BSD. 5.The shine is still there but has reduced a bit. Let the clips and photos do the talking. There are multiple clips all combined into 1 video for a better understanding Interesting observation ********************** 2 coats of wax were applied after a curing time of >24 hours on the Bonnet and on the side fenders. Interestingly the wax is still holding up better than on the bonnet. Not sure if it's due to the locations where the bonnet gets hit hard the most with dirt and debris. The same was observed with Sonax BSD and Carpro Hydro2 where the vertical panels below the mirrors are beading much better than the panel above just below the glass.
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